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possible this is james fox and you're

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listening to

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i that's probably a nice way to segue

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into the listener questions deborah

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because you've brought something up and

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my co-host dan

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i was talking to him about speaking to

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you and any questions he wanted me to

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bring up and you've mentioned you know

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potentially if more people were in touch

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or in tune with these abilities

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how would it change society for the good

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or for the better now elon musk um he

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wants to bring out neuralink which is a

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way for us to it's a chip in your brain

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and it's going to connect us all and you

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know you have access to information and

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sharing and do you think

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technology is a kind of bridge between

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us getting to that stage or would that

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potentially be harmful and people

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accessing these types of abilities

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well i'd like to learn more about his

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idea with that chip

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would ever want to do

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you know they're me neither

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okay it's just like anything

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that has volume like your tv

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is a really cool thing

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and you like to watch your tv but

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sometimes the sound gets turned up way

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too loud it's annoying it is distracting

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and you know you're just like turn this

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off same thing with our music anything

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and that is really true with telepathy

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as well

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and there are some people

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um and even moments with myself i've had

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there there's different levels of

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telepathy and and telepathy again is

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like mind-to-mind communication though

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the minds might be between two humans or

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an alien i've had i have had what i am

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alien um communications and those are

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communications that were

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there of a quality that were so clear

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i would not want those going through my

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every moment and it's been interesting

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me and he he was in india and he was

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saying that there was another man that

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he had worked with for a short time who

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was like psychically attacking him and

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wouldn't leave him alone and could i

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somehow help now when i get an email

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like that i have to i have to not make

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any conclusions this could be someone

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schizophrenia it may be a psychic

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problem it might be a combination so i

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um it would just not be something people

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listeners have had this or will have it

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communications and so if you don't want

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the communications just saying to

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whoever whatever is around and sometimes

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like radio signals it's not even

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directed to us we're just tapping into

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something um like in that case i didn't

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feel like there was an entity uh really

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found what it was but i didn't have the

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sense that something was attacking me

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something that he was

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other person but um

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like hey you know if something is here

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right now i have no interest in

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communicating with you i don't wish to

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engage

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shut up go away and then just to both

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okay where if there was something around

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me like is it to my right or my left and

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out of my house and then i won't listen

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anymore i'll i'll start thinking about

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something else or go do some listen to a

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podcast or something but just you know

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don't give don't give it any attention

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so that's how or there's like a

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technique where you can see a dial and

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and that will sometimes help too so

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your question i know i go off on

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detentions that's all right um but yeah

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you know i would not want something

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my my head just like i wouldn't want

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like someone else to control my tv set

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to decide you know what volume or what

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channel i'm going to be watching however

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i you know i would say the the thing

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with our intuition is

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we're not always in control

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of who's around us and who's louder than

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other people and and some people are

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like there are i have friends that are

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healers and i can feel certain ones

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even if i don't want to again if they're

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thinking of me i will become aware of

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them

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if they're if they're really trying to

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get in touch i'll almost start to like

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find myself obsessing about them or

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feeling them physically and some people

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just are like louder broadcasters than

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others maybe through thought or through

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their body energy and so we we contend

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with this all the time around us again

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most people just you know aren't aware

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of it but

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yeah no did no

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telepathic chips in our heads

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now to stick on that same theme michael

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had a question and he wants to know what

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is it like to witness someone who is

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remotely viewing your environment i've

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heard remote viewers say they see me

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they see me so what does that look like

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for either party

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yes well there's

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lots of debates within the remote

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viewing community and forums about

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whether or not you can tell if someone's

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remote viewing you and a lot of people

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think like will say no you can't really

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tell or others can't see you however i

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know personally that's not true i've had

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a few occasions

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my very first remote viewing instructor

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mike vanetta who is no longer alive

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but at the time he was very much alive i

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didn't know him i didn't know what he

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looked like i barely even knew his name

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i was invited by a couple people

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to go to a training and they were paying

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for my training so i was just gonna show

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up and i would say about a week before

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i was lying in bed and suddenly a man's

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face like materialized and it was still

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with my eyes closed but the vision of it

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was as if he were like standing right

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there i saw his face and at first i was

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startled like oh my gosh who is this

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and then immediately i had the thought

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my going to be my instructor in a week

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and so i went to the training and on our

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last day he was driving us back to the

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airport and i said

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were you remote viewing me

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a week ago because i saw you because it

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was him it was exactly

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the the his face and he

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he was shocked he got really his whole

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face turned red he was embarrassed and

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i didn't i

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was really under the belief that people

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couldn't see you when you're

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remote viewing and yes i was he said you

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know i felt justified in doing it

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because you were coming to my house

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because we there were just like five of

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us and we were gonna sleep at their

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house so he said you know i really

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needed to check out to see you know what

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you were all about this was a while ago

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10 years ago or so so

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yeah so i can i can see when people are

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tuning in fact i don't know who this was

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but maybe about six months ago

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i i was just lying there and again i saw

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first i had this image of like a guy in

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my kitchen it was like a silhouette but

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he was in my kitchen and then i saw

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another guy

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i saw two other ones and i was like

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really startled like who why would there

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be people here and then i realized they

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were

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remote viewers now i didn't get

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confirmation about that so i can't say

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for sure i was correct but

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um they it was it was kind of funny

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because the one in my kitchen just

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seemed to be like looking around trying

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to like see the location and like he

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couldn't find me i was like hey dude

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yeah you're not you're not going to find

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me here i'm not into it

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it's good you've got a sense of humor

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with it as well that you you're

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accepting of it and obviously you

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understand what's happening um on that

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map has a question um are there any

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remote viewing sessions which have

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affected you negatively the most and how

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do you come to terms with visions or

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sessions that are negative or

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frightening

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yes well

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what what overall bothers

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me is when

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the thing is when you don't even know

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what you're dealing with with the target

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number again if someone's just giving

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you a number

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then you

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um

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my biggest issue is i don't know if i've

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described them enough i've described the

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target enough and given them what they

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want

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and so i'll i'll do like a three hour

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session

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put it aside go to sleep and then i'll

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be

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kind of obsessing about did i get enough

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and then i'll want to keep tuning in and

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not like i i i try to set boundaries

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with myself but i'll violate those and

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then i'll just kind of be like a meshed

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with the target until i find out what it

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was so that's not a healthy way to do

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things i know it and

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and so that is probably what creates

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more problems so if i know

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that i really don't have a lot of energy

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in my life or i'm so busy with other

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things i might turn down like offers for

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targets because i know how i get with

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something like that but to more directly

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um i think what the person was wondering

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about like more specific dramatic

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examples i did have a case where i i

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wasn't told this but it turned out to be

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um quite a highly publicized murder that

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took place in virginia of a girl that

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disappeared and they wanted to know

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investigators wanted to know um where

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she was and what had happened and so i

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picked up right away i i did see a

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a teenager being

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um attacked and now what i do is that if

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i have a target where it i start to

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realize oh this is like a murder case or

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some kind of attack

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um usually

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i i know from experience that the the

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manager who has signed it isn't really

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wanting us to describe what happened in

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the attack they're more often going to

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want to know like where is the body or

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where is the person so i will back away

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from that i'm not going to you know let

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myself

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experience the whole attack but it's

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kind of like

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uh i'll have to keep moving away from it

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because i'll go back to it i'll be like

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maybe i say okay i'm not going to go

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there i'm just now i know someone was

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attacked and let's go try to find out

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the location but then maybe five minutes

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later i'll be drawn back to the attack

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and i have to draw away again so i had

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one so in this particular one with the

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girl um i when i said let me like go to

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where her body is i saw like body parts

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scattered like i saw little pieces of

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flesh and i saw birds eating the flesh

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so when i saw that that i you know i

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have to say like i had mixed feelings on

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the one hand that's really disturbing

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and and rather gross

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and upsetting but i i also had the

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feelings like a little bit of like

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happiness that i had

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i i knew

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without any doubt that and i don't want

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to say it was happiness for that i was

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sad to know that she was dead um but i

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was happy as a remote viewer that i had

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a clear picture that she was dead

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because there's no way

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and this is a thing like when we're

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observing something just like any other

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observations if you're walking down the

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street and you see a person lying on the

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ground do you know if they're

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sleeping dead

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lying there drunk intoxicated injured

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you don't know that until you go closer

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and you you know feel the heartbeat and

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even then you i mean how many people

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are passed off for dead and it turns out

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they're alive so this is even harder to

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discern from your psychic abilities but

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if you're if you see a body parts all

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over you know that that they're dead so

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you're no longer looking for a living

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person

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so the interesting thing about that

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target

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was

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it turned out that the way

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authorities found her

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was because

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neighbors

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saw all these birds converging in

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someone's backyard at an abandoned house

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so it turned out that her body was lying

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out on the ground and it had been

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um

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in different pieces and the birds were

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eating the bodies and that was the way

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that authorities were notified about it

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and that was my exact image in the

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session so

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that that was disturbing but i also i

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have to say i did

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have a degree of separation so it wasn't

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like you know probably if i had just

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walked upon

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not probably absolutely if i had

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actually walked upon a scene like that

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in real life i would be so horrified and

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i'd still be traumatized but it is

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something that stays with you and a

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couple times i've brought this up to my

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husband when we were like we were out

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traveling somewhere and i saw a and i

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saw a landscape that looked like just

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like i had seen in that

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setting where the body was and i

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explained it to him and he he's someone

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who watches gory movies all the time but

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he was like you know i don't want to

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hear about this this is way too

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you know you need to just get over that

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i don't want to hear about it anymore so

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you know it's it's things like that i

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would say crime cases that are are the

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most

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assigned 9 11 to to tune into

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what happened on september 11th

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with

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the explosion of the twin towers and

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again i didn't know that was the target

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i just got a target number and for that

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it was very weird because i was getting

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pla like airplanes

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um involved flying over city and then

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the next thing i got was

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people in a stairwell trying to get out

440
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of it and and for that i had such a

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realistic view of people being trapped

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in a stairwell and so and

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they couldn't get down further

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and the weird thing was at that moment

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when i saw them trapped

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i went totally unconscious like i fell

447
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asleep like i lost consciousness and

448
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maybe like came to like 20 minutes later

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and i and then later and i wasn't even

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aware at that time that i was looking at

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9 11 i just knew that there was some

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kind of tragedy in a building with

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people stuck in the stairwell so i i've

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always wondered like why

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at that moment when it was so intense

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something had to be going on that

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actually just knocked me out of

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consciousness because

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that was

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would have been one of the moments where

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i would have wanted to stay awake in a

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session but i i do really believe that

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we have a protective mechanism within

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ourselves that will shut things down if

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you know if it's going to be too

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that's a really real good answer thank

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you for that um

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melanie has a question and you made a

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comment previously deborah and i was

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definitely going to come back to it so

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any listeners who were shouting or

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screaming at the podcast at the time i

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am bringing it back up you mentioned um

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alien communications being some of the

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clearest you've received now melanie is

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asking um are you familiar i mentioned

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them before of dr simeon hein

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yes i've i know him quite well i've yeah

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yeah i thought you might have um and she

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wants to know like people like doctor

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simeon have or some i just call them

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some as well like not best mates but

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i've spoke to him a few times um he has

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said before the aliens are here and all

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around us now is that a concept that you

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would also subscribe to and just talk a

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little on the the alien communication

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side of things that you've had

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previously

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sure

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yes they are

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i don't know if they are physically

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right there but they are

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absolutely on a consciousness level

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right there and i say that with such

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high confidence because

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i've had them

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appear to me

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when i least expected it i was like not

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doing anything that had to do with

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aliens

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in fact for many many years i like

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the whole topic just totally terrified

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me so i could not even i i would not

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read a book on aliens or ufos if i saw

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them in the bookstore i just didn't even

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look at the book covers i just walked

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away but the very first time i became

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aware of one

510
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i was doing a reading for

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somebody and it was just on like some

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childhood problems he had

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and suddenly something

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switched and i had this image and i

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thought i was like looking at some weird

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kind of furniture like i was like oh it

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seems like suddenly i have this vision

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of this like outdoor furniture in a

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shape i've never seen before i don't

520
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know what this has to do with what we're

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talking about and then suddenly it

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switched and like this full blown image

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of like a gray alien was suddenly like

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right there it it would be like if you

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were watching tv

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how you know you're just watching a show

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and if the actors turned to you like

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they turned their head and looked at you

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and said hey andrew you know hey i'm

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right here

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so it's like your tv talking to you but

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it was at my clairvoyant image and in

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and it was this very menacing like i

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immediately felt like i do not like this

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guy he was a great

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menacing eyes and and he just said like

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telepathically like get out of here

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you're not supposed to be here

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and so that was my first and i was like

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okay i don't know what's going on here

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but i don't need to push this let's just

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end our whole session here we were i was

543
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almost done with my client anyway

544
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so we just ended things and then my

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second time that happened i i had been

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living in the philippines and i um was

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actually pregnant at the time and didn't

548
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know it yet i was just like maybe

549
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four weeks pregnant we were in this my

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my son's father was an acupuncturist and

551
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we were traveling to these remote

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regions to heal people who didn't have

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access to medical care and we spent the

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night in one of his clients empty homes

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in the mountains and i would say

556
00:23:24,230 --> 00:23:20,960
i went to sleep not feeling too well

557
00:23:27,909 --> 00:23:24,240
and i woke up in the middle of the night

558
00:23:31,430 --> 00:23:27,919
and there were like five grey alien

559
00:23:33,190 --> 00:23:31,440
faces just like right there and and i

560
00:23:34,870 --> 00:23:33,200
couldn't tell if they were physically

561
00:23:37,350 --> 00:23:34,880
there or if i was seeing them

562
00:23:40,310 --> 00:23:37,360
clairvoyantly but i know at that point i

563
00:23:42,470 --> 00:23:40,320
was awake i was not having a dream and i

564
00:23:43,350 --> 00:23:42,480
screamed and then

565
00:23:45,269 --> 00:23:43,360
um

566
00:23:47,590 --> 00:23:45,279
and then kind of

567
00:23:49,510 --> 00:23:47,600
consciousness shifted or something and

568
00:23:51,110 --> 00:23:49,520
well manuel

569
00:23:52,870 --> 00:23:51,120
jumped up put

570
00:23:55,190 --> 00:23:52,880
lit a match or whatever we didn't have

571
00:23:57,909 --> 00:23:55,200
electricity went back to sleep and had

572
00:23:59,990 --> 00:23:57,919
that same experience again um so those

573
00:24:02,390 --> 00:24:00,000
were a couple early ones but i'll just

574
00:24:04,870 --> 00:24:02,400
share most recently so we were moving to

575
00:24:07,909 --> 00:24:04,880
a new house i now live in mapleton

576
00:24:11,190 --> 00:24:07,919
oregon and we were moving to a new house

577
00:24:14,870 --> 00:24:11,200
and one of my students who has like just

578
00:24:17,590 --> 00:24:14,880
crazy accurate dreams of the future

579
00:24:18,789 --> 00:24:17,600
she wrote to me saying that she saw this

580
00:24:22,549 --> 00:24:18,799
alien

581
00:24:24,310 --> 00:24:22,559
standing outside my house but it was a

582
00:24:26,070 --> 00:24:24,320
different she didn't know i was moving

583
00:24:27,990 --> 00:24:26,080
she said it's not because i used to live

584
00:24:30,070 --> 00:24:28,000
in the desert in california and she said

585
00:24:32,549 --> 00:24:30,080
it's not your desert house but i just

586
00:24:34,070 --> 00:24:32,559
had a dream of you at a different house

587
00:24:35,110 --> 00:24:34,080
and there's this big

588
00:24:38,230 --> 00:24:35,120
light

589
00:24:40,870 --> 00:24:38,240
outside the garage and i see this

590
00:24:43,269 --> 00:24:40,880
giant alien just like standing under the

591
00:24:45,830 --> 00:24:43,279
light staring towards the house and so

592
00:24:46,789 --> 00:24:45,840
she had that dream and about two days

593
00:24:49,350 --> 00:24:46,799
later

594
00:24:51,990 --> 00:24:49,360
my friend nancy smith who's a longtime

595
00:24:53,909 --> 00:24:52,000
remote viewer and project manager she

596
00:24:56,230 --> 00:24:53,919
wrote to me and she said that she was

597
00:24:59,110 --> 00:24:56,240
meditating and suddenly she was

598
00:25:01,990 --> 00:24:59,120
transported to my new house and saw an

599
00:25:03,590 --> 00:25:02,000
alien standing outside my garage under

600
00:25:07,350 --> 00:25:03,600
this big light

601
00:25:09,750 --> 00:25:07,360
so she had the exact same image as

602
00:25:12,789 --> 00:25:09,760
my student did in the dream and then i

603
00:25:14,710 --> 00:25:12,799
started having um the same dream so

604
00:25:16,549 --> 00:25:14,720
there was like enough correspondence and

605
00:25:19,269 --> 00:25:16,559
we do the house we moved to has a

606
00:25:21,669 --> 00:25:19,279
detached garage with this huge

607
00:25:23,830 --> 00:25:21,679
crazy light that's just

608
00:25:25,990 --> 00:25:23,840
up in the we live like in

609
00:25:29,269 --> 00:25:26,000
wilderness but there's this one light

610
00:25:30,870 --> 00:25:29,279
above the garage so you know it's for me

611
00:25:33,350 --> 00:25:30,880
again like if someone just has a dream

612
00:25:35,590 --> 00:25:33,360
about an alien at my house like not

613
00:25:37,510 --> 00:25:35,600
gonna put too much credence to it but

614
00:25:39,750 --> 00:25:37,520
when you start to get multiple

615
00:25:41,669 --> 00:25:39,760
correspondences from people who've never

616
00:25:44,390 --> 00:25:41,679
even met each other that's when you have

617
00:25:45,990 --> 00:25:44,400
to say okay something something is up

618
00:25:47,669 --> 00:25:46,000
here

619
00:25:49,830 --> 00:25:47,679
no thank you for that one uh next

620
00:25:51,830 --> 00:25:49,840
question from derrick he wants to know

621
00:25:55,110 --> 00:25:51,840
have you ever remote viewed any of the

622
00:25:56,870 --> 00:25:55,120
planets in the solar system um typically

623
00:25:58,789 --> 00:25:56,880
just before a nasa rover landing for

624
00:26:01,190 --> 00:25:58,799
example he remembers reading that ingo

625
00:26:03,029 --> 00:26:01,200
swan had been remote viewing planets and

626
00:26:05,669 --> 00:26:03,039
described them before we even managed to

627
00:26:08,230 --> 00:26:05,679
get probes or landers near them

628
00:26:10,310 --> 00:26:08,240
yes well i'm glad he asked that question

629
00:26:12,390 --> 00:26:10,320
and that also segues into the

630
00:26:14,549 --> 00:26:12,400
international remote viewing conference

631
00:26:17,029 --> 00:26:14,559
that's going to be coming up

632
00:26:18,990 --> 00:26:17,039
which people can find that out about on

633
00:26:23,590 --> 00:26:19,000
irva.org

634
00:26:27,510 --> 00:26:23,600
and so tom mcnair is

635
00:26:30,470 --> 00:26:27,520
one of ingo's first students and he was

636
00:26:32,870 --> 00:26:30,480
trained ingo had developed a training

637
00:26:35,350 --> 00:26:32,880
program but it was always in a process

638
00:26:36,870 --> 00:26:35,360
of development with different stages and

639
00:26:39,029 --> 00:26:36,880
his training was called controlled

640
00:26:41,269 --> 00:26:39,039
remote viewing and so this was going

641
00:26:44,789 --> 00:26:41,279
back in into the 19

642
00:26:47,909 --> 00:26:44,799
like 1983 or so tom mcnair was his

643
00:26:50,870 --> 00:26:47,919
longest time student and just had so

644
00:26:53,909 --> 00:26:50,880
many incredibly great he would just name

645
00:26:56,470 --> 00:26:53,919
the target like very obscure targets and

646
00:26:59,110 --> 00:26:56,480
just did so well and and he was an

647
00:27:01,909 --> 00:26:59,120
intelligence officer in the u.s military

648
00:27:05,110 --> 00:27:01,919
up until just a couple years ago well

649
00:27:07,990 --> 00:27:05,120
tom was one of the

650
00:27:10,950 --> 00:27:08,000
people who was tasked with

651
00:27:14,549 --> 00:27:10,960
with viewing mars and so ingo did a

652
00:27:16,310 --> 00:27:14,559
session on mars and then tom did

653
00:27:20,070 --> 00:27:16,320
and had some very interesting

654
00:27:21,990 --> 00:27:20,080
experiences and then a a few years ago i

655
00:27:24,950 --> 00:27:22,000
heard tom talking that he was looking

656
00:27:26,470 --> 00:27:24,960
for other people to tune in to mars to

657
00:27:29,510 --> 00:27:26,480
see what they got

658
00:27:32,230 --> 00:27:29,520
so i decided for myself i would do that

659
00:27:34,870 --> 00:27:32,240
so i knew i was looking at mars however

660
00:27:36,710 --> 00:27:34,880
my students and some other

661
00:27:39,510 --> 00:27:36,720
past students that are now very

662
00:27:41,269 --> 00:27:39,520
accomplished remote viewers uh i i

663
00:27:44,149 --> 00:27:41,279
assigned it to them and didn't tell them

664
00:27:45,750 --> 00:27:44,159
it was mars so i just gave them a target

665
00:27:47,430 --> 00:27:45,760
number and so

666
00:27:50,310 --> 00:27:47,440
then i put everything together in a

667
00:27:52,549 --> 00:27:50,320
report and sent it to tom and tom was

668
00:27:55,190 --> 00:27:52,559
really blown away by what the students

669
00:27:58,630 --> 00:27:55,200
got and all of and he put this all into

670
00:27:59,590 --> 00:27:58,640
a report in a presentation so he's going

671
00:28:02,070 --> 00:27:59,600
to be

672
00:28:05,350 --> 00:28:02,080
doing that presentation at the irva

673
00:28:06,870 --> 00:28:05,360
conference on mars and so that is

674
00:28:08,470 --> 00:28:06,880
something that

675
00:28:10,310 --> 00:28:08,480
um

676
00:28:11,990 --> 00:28:10,320
i've seen part of his presentation

677
00:28:14,149 --> 00:28:12,000
before and it's really excellent and

678
00:28:16,630 --> 00:28:14,159
interesting and for those that aren't

679
00:28:19,269 --> 00:28:16,640
able to make it to rhinebeck new york

680
00:28:21,350 --> 00:28:19,279
at the omega center on september 9th

681
00:28:24,230 --> 00:28:21,360
through 12th there will be an online

682
00:28:27,350 --> 00:28:24,240
conference it's 90 or there'll be a live

683
00:28:30,230 --> 00:28:27,360
stream of all the talks and that will be

684
00:28:33,269 --> 00:28:30,240
for 99 for anyone who wants to do the

685
00:28:34,310 --> 00:28:33,279
whole weekend live stream

686
00:28:36,389 --> 00:28:34,320
so

687
00:28:40,549 --> 00:28:36,399
what i will say

688
00:28:44,470 --> 00:28:40,559
is that it seemed like overall

689
00:28:46,710 --> 00:28:44,480
um there was definitely life on

690
00:28:48,870 --> 00:28:46,720
that there were people that had come to

691
00:28:51,510 --> 00:28:48,880
mars and seemed to

692
00:28:54,389 --> 00:28:51,520
be stuck there there were definitely

693
00:28:55,750 --> 00:28:54,399
um consciousnesses and intelligences

694
00:28:58,149 --> 00:28:55,760
that were there

695
00:29:00,310 --> 00:28:58,159
um and it seemed like the overall

696
00:29:01,430 --> 00:29:00,320
consensus was that

697
00:29:04,230 --> 00:29:01,440
um

698
00:29:06,149 --> 00:29:04,240
peop whether they were people were

699
00:29:08,789 --> 00:29:06,159
we weren't positive if but it seemed

700
00:29:12,230 --> 00:29:08,799
like they were human but that they had

701
00:29:14,070 --> 00:29:12,240
somehow been left behind that was i

702
00:29:17,830 --> 00:29:14,080
would say like the biggest thing that

703
00:29:19,830 --> 00:29:17,840
that stood out about it

704
00:29:22,149 --> 00:29:19,840
um in terms of the other question and i

705
00:29:23,430 --> 00:29:22,159
was going to bring up the

706
00:29:25,669 --> 00:29:23,440
just on that debra i was going to bring

707
00:29:27,029 --> 00:29:25,679
up the irva or from the september 9th to

708
00:29:28,789 --> 00:29:27,039
the 12th and again the links for that

709
00:29:30,470 --> 00:29:28,799
will be in the description folks and and

710
00:29:32,310 --> 00:29:30,480
like deborah says there will be options

711
00:29:34,389 --> 00:29:32,320
for virtual passes for those who aren't

712
00:29:36,230 --> 00:29:34,399
living in the immediate area or who

713
00:29:37,909 --> 00:29:36,240
can't travel but it is nice to get back

714
00:29:39,750 --> 00:29:37,919
to these things face to face as well

715
00:29:41,269 --> 00:29:39,760
because it does add to the experience

716
00:29:43,029 --> 00:29:41,279
but 99

717
00:29:44,549 --> 00:29:43,039
and there's been a lot of talk recently

718
00:29:46,230 --> 00:29:44,559
about how much people are charging for

719
00:29:47,750 --> 00:29:46,240
some of these things i think most will

720
00:29:49,350 --> 00:29:47,760
agree it's a pretty reasonable option

721
00:29:51,669 --> 00:29:49,360
for for a few days of one of these

722
00:29:54,950 --> 00:29:51,679
events as well so again all those all

723
00:29:57,830 --> 00:29:54,960
that information will be in the links

724
00:30:00,789 --> 00:29:57,840
yeah and you know i have to say

725
00:30:02,789 --> 00:30:00,799
at these conferences like a lot of times

726
00:30:05,510 --> 00:30:02,799
we're practicing remote viewing like

727
00:30:06,470 --> 00:30:05,520
we'll be doing an outbounder target

728
00:30:09,510 --> 00:30:06,480
where

729
00:30:12,149 --> 00:30:09,520
someone will go actually go to

730
00:30:14,230 --> 00:30:12,159
a location and then as a group we'll all

731
00:30:16,950 --> 00:30:14,240
describe what it where it is they are

732
00:30:19,110 --> 00:30:16,960
and what they're doing and we're also

733
00:30:21,510 --> 00:30:19,120
going to have an evening event where we

734
00:30:23,590 --> 00:30:21,520
do different remote viewing games and

735
00:30:25,590 --> 00:30:23,600
contests where people split into groups

736
00:30:27,909 --> 00:30:25,600
and have targets and have to

737
00:30:29,990 --> 00:30:27,919
each group has to describe the target

738
00:30:33,669 --> 00:30:30,000
faster and better than the other groups

739
00:30:35,990 --> 00:30:33,679
so we do fun activities and for me i'm a

740
00:30:38,230 --> 00:30:36,000
conference junkie even though they do

741
00:30:40,389 --> 00:30:38,240
definitely get expensive and you know

742
00:30:41,269 --> 00:30:40,399
you have to save for a while sometimes

743
00:30:48,789 --> 00:30:41,279
for

744
00:30:51,590 --> 00:30:48,799
i don't really do well just

745
00:30:53,350 --> 00:30:51,600
just practicing on my own i like to be

746
00:30:55,909 --> 00:30:53,360
part of groups

747
00:30:58,549 --> 00:30:55,919
and and have actual reasons to have to

748
00:31:00,950 --> 00:30:58,559
practice and so i've met so many

749
00:31:03,269 --> 00:31:00,960
incredible people at the international

750
00:31:07,029 --> 00:31:03,279
remote viewing association conference

751
00:31:08,950 --> 00:31:07,039
and i'm also part of another group that

752
00:31:10,789 --> 00:31:08,960
focuses more on what we were talking

753
00:31:12,789 --> 00:31:10,799
about before my book on associative

754
00:31:15,750 --> 00:31:12,799
remote viewing and predicting outcomes

755
00:31:17,190 --> 00:31:15,760
for sports and finances so

756
00:31:20,230 --> 00:31:17,200
there's an organization called the

757
00:31:22,470 --> 00:31:20,240
applied precognition project and they

758
00:31:24,950 --> 00:31:22,480
they also have conferences and a lot

759
00:31:27,269 --> 00:31:24,960
going on there there but they're again

760
00:31:30,230 --> 00:31:27,279
like not just about any topic they're

761
00:31:33,190 --> 00:31:30,240
very more specific about doing

762
00:31:34,950 --> 00:31:33,200
remote viewing for those purposes but um

763
00:31:37,190 --> 00:31:34,960
i would just say that anyone who's

764
00:31:39,110 --> 00:31:37,200
interested in these topics like there's

765
00:31:41,509 --> 00:31:39,120
you know different remote viewing forums

766
00:31:42,389 --> 00:31:41,519
like facebook groups there's a large

767
00:31:47,269 --> 00:31:42,399
reddit

768
00:31:49,269 --> 00:31:47,279
over 45 000 people although

769
00:31:51,110 --> 00:31:49,279
if you want to really really like

770
00:31:53,830 --> 00:31:51,120
learn from people who have been doing

771
00:31:56,070 --> 00:31:53,840
this for a long time i would say look on

772
00:31:58,389 --> 00:31:56,080
facebook the the remote viewing groups

773
00:32:01,029 --> 00:31:58,399
like there's one group that's 10 000

774
00:32:04,389 --> 00:32:01,039
people another group dez smith runs a

775
00:32:06,149 --> 00:32:04,399
group that's um 5 000 people

776
00:32:08,070 --> 00:32:06,159
and that's where you're gonna get like

777
00:32:10,549 --> 00:32:08,080
like paul smith he's one of the former

778
00:32:13,110 --> 00:32:10,559
military remote viewers he's oftentimes

779
00:32:16,149 --> 00:32:13,120
on the forums just there there's lynn

780
00:32:17,830 --> 00:32:16,159
buchanan's on the forums just so many uh

781
00:32:20,070 --> 00:32:17,840
people that are

782
00:32:21,990 --> 00:32:20,080
just obsessed with remote viewing and

783
00:32:23,990 --> 00:32:22,000
doing it all the time and doing like

784
00:32:25,909 --> 00:32:24,000
really interesting projects they will

785
00:32:28,710 --> 00:32:25,919
all communicate together and that's

786
00:32:31,110 --> 00:32:28,720
where you could really learn about

787
00:32:33,190 --> 00:32:31,120
sometimes people are having new projects

788
00:32:36,149 --> 00:32:33,200
that they're looking for people to join

789
00:32:38,950 --> 00:32:36,159
in on so i know that this training can

790
00:32:41,190 --> 00:32:38,960
get expensive i offer classes through

791
00:32:42,549 --> 00:32:41,200
the international remote or

792
00:32:44,470 --> 00:32:42,559
through the

793
00:32:47,029 --> 00:32:44,480
i can't even remember my own

794
00:32:47,830 --> 00:32:47,039
organization

795
00:32:50,950 --> 00:32:47,840
for

796
00:32:53,110 --> 00:32:50,960
the um what is wrong with me my own

797
00:32:55,190 --> 00:32:53,120
clairvoyant school i'm always promoting

798
00:32:56,389 --> 00:32:55,200
irva so now i'm forgetting my own school

799
00:32:58,389 --> 00:32:56,399
name

800
00:33:00,389 --> 00:32:58,399
international school of clairvoyance and

801
00:33:03,430 --> 00:33:00,399
i have a remote viewing class starting

802
00:33:05,110 --> 00:33:03,440
in october for 12 weeks and you know the

803
00:33:09,190 --> 00:33:05,120
reason why these classes are more

804
00:33:11,909 --> 00:33:09,200
expensive is because it it it takes a

805
00:33:13,430 --> 00:33:11,919
lot of time to work individually with

806
00:33:15,830 --> 00:33:13,440
students like even though you're in a

807
00:33:18,549 --> 00:33:15,840
group you're communicating with students

808
00:33:20,310 --> 00:33:18,559
in in between the classes

809
00:33:22,389 --> 00:33:20,320
you're you can only teach so many

810
00:33:23,990 --> 00:33:22,399
classes a week and especially with

811
00:33:25,830 --> 00:33:24,000
remote viewing it's really labor

812
00:33:28,389 --> 00:33:25,840
intensive because you know it's like

813
00:33:30,230 --> 00:33:28,399
grading papers you've got to see see all

814
00:33:31,110 --> 00:33:30,240
the written work and

815
00:33:33,110 --> 00:33:31,120
and

816
00:33:36,310 --> 00:33:33,120
be just in constant communication with

817
00:33:38,230 --> 00:33:36,320
your students so that is why training is

818
00:33:39,830 --> 00:33:38,240
expensive but i don't want anyone to

819
00:33:41,750 --> 00:33:39,840
think that they need to

820
00:33:44,630 --> 00:33:41,760
you know have to pay for expensive

821
00:33:46,789 --> 00:33:44,640
training there's books there's video

822
00:33:48,710 --> 00:33:46,799
there there's you know options like the

823
00:33:51,190 --> 00:33:48,720
live streaming for the upcoming irva

824
00:33:54,230 --> 00:33:51,200
conference so there's so many ways to

825
00:33:57,909 --> 00:33:54,240
get training in these areas if if you

826
00:33:58,950 --> 00:33:57,919
want to what i find oftentimes is most

827
00:34:01,350 --> 00:33:58,960
lacking

828
00:34:02,630 --> 00:34:01,360
is not money but is

829
00:34:08,869 --> 00:34:02,640
is in

830
00:34:10,869 --> 00:34:08,879
people um willing to put in the time you

831
00:34:12,950 --> 00:34:10,879
know so there there are very

832
00:34:16,069 --> 00:34:12,960
accomplished remote viewers like i

833
00:34:18,310 --> 00:34:16,079
mentioned daz smith um he runs crypto

834
00:34:20,149 --> 00:34:18,320
viewing right now and he's got some

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really big remote viewing websites and

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also ufo websites and he's basically

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self-taught like he might have gone to

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like i think he went to a three-day

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workshop

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like two decades ago

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but he trained himself and he trained

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himself by just going out and talking to

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everybody who does this and then and

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practicing he's done like

845
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like thousands of remote viewing

846
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sessions so that's the thing if anybody

847
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really wants to learn this they can but

848
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they've got to practice and that's

849
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what's oftentimes lacking you know it's

850
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easy to talk about this it's

851
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these topics it's a lot harder to just

852
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actually get yourself to be disciplined

853
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sit down and practice and on that note i

854
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also i have a set of practice targets

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available to the public if you go to

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remoteviewing.net

857
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all sorts of practice targets so you can

858
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just like sit down with a piece of paper

859
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choose one you'll see a target number

860
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like it'll say location number one or

861
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object number one and then you can just

862
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see what you get put it down on paper

863
00:35:32,310 --> 00:35:30,079
remember always sketch and then you can

864
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go back and look at your feedback if you

865
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do 10 of those you're going to you're

866
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going to train yourself you're going to

867
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learn what worked what didn't work so

868
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practice is the key and that's the thing

869
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that even in my classes like i might

870
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have 10 students

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and four of them will practice and

872
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they'll get through the 12 weeks and

873
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just be totally amazed at their progress

874
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the other students maybe they didn't

875
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practice and you know they don't get

876
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anywhere

877
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no one can do that for a person they

878
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and i'll make sure all those links again

879
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are in the description i've been taking

880
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note of them as deborah's mentioned them

881
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as well so i've i think i've managed to

882
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keep up deborah listen we'll leave the

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listener questions there debra is going

884
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to stay with me for a little bit more

885
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time and over on the patreon and apple

886
00:36:21,430 --> 00:36:19,520
premium subscriptions there'll be a

887
00:36:24,230 --> 00:36:21,440
little bit of bonus content with just a

888
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few more listener questions as well but

889
00:36:27,750 --> 00:36:25,680
deborah we're going to leave it here for

890
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this portion of the show so how can

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00:36:31,270 --> 00:36:29,440
people follow you and obviously you've

892
00:36:33,190 --> 00:36:31,280
discussed your work there as well and

893
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how can they get in touch

894
00:36:37,589 --> 00:36:35,440
yes i would say the best way is to check

895
00:36:40,550 --> 00:36:37,599
out my website deborah katz

896
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d-e-b-r-a-k-a-t-z

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dot-com

898
00:36:46,150 --> 00:36:43,920
excellent and remember that book is

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available now through amazon and other

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00:36:49,990 --> 00:36:48,079
book publishers that's associative

901
00:36:52,150 --> 00:36:50,000
remote viewing the art and science of

902
00:36:54,470 --> 00:36:52,160
predicting outcomes for sports politics

903
00:36:55,829 --> 00:36:54,480
finances and the lottery good speaking

904
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with you deborah

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thank you

906
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that is all for this week's show thank

907
00:37:03,589 --> 00:37:01,440
you very much for listening please

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looking up you never know what you might

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see

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is

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[Music]

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i can't imagine how it could have been

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any better i got to the top of the

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[Music]

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was weird and everything was red i

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helped my boys they thought this was

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[Music]

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what's that

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[Music]

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consider serious lies

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[Music]

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it wasn't a tic-tac

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[Music]

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it's very different

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[Music]